Dear Forum,
I am a CKD patient (kidney) looking for my next try at stem cells. I had a six session treatment in Pune India, in Feb 2013 using cord blood and bone marrow, but have seen little improvement.
I have read lately about a treatment using the abdominal fat lobe fused to the kidneys to supply a continuous supply of stem cells, which is successful, but has only been performed on rats:
http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/early/2014/03/11/ASN.2013040387
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140313172933.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24627352
These articles as well as a new one, say that injected stem cells have a very short life of days or hours.
http://www.rdmag.com/news/2014/07/research-team-pursues-techniques-improve-elusive-stem-cell-therapy
Does this apply to only mesenchymal stem cells?
I have been told by a doctor doing placenta implantation, that placenta cells, both injected and implanted placenta tissue, last 325 days.
He proposes a treatment using a total of 10 million cells, both implanted and injected. (http://stemcell-therapy-mexico.com/index.htm Dr. Gonzalez)
Another doctor, also in Mexico, who uses placenta implantation also, uses a "laser activation" of the stem cells (http://www.stemcellmexico.com/Treatment.html). Dr. Gonzalez does not.
A clinic in Malaysia promises "significant (but partial) improvements" using cord blood injections, cultivated to 100million cell count. (http://www.mingmedical.net/about-us.html)
"We in East Asia have been commonly using Stem Cell to treat degenerative conditions, over the last 10 years, and have refined the treatment protocols:
Condition
(patient age 57 yo)
Chronic Kidney Disease
Intravenous
Cord Blood Stem Cell
2 million per kg body weight
3 times, at 3-4 month intervals"
Another Mexican clinic that uses placenta cells: http://stemcell-therapy-mexico.com/index.htm https://sites.google.com/site/stemcellmexteatments/ Dr Rodriguez
I am left wondering a few things:
What is the life span of injected stem cells? Is there a difference between "mesenchymal" and placenta cell life?
Is activation of cells necessary? How is this best accomplished?
Should "blood vessel-forming cells" be used with injections?
Does implantation of placenta tissue have a better chance of working well?
What cell count is necessary for each type of cell?
Any opinions, knowledge, or discussion of the above would be most welcome and appreciated!
Thank you,
Mike
I am a CKD patient (kidney) looking for my next try at stem cells. I had a six session treatment in Pune India, in Feb 2013 using cord blood and bone marrow, but have seen little improvement.
I have read lately about a treatment using the abdominal fat lobe fused to the kidneys to supply a continuous supply of stem cells, which is successful, but has only been performed on rats:
http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/early/2014/03/11/ASN.2013040387
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140313172933.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24627352
These articles as well as a new one, say that injected stem cells have a very short life of days or hours.
http://www.rdmag.com/news/2014/07/research-team-pursues-techniques-improve-elusive-stem-cell-therapy
Does this apply to only mesenchymal stem cells?
I have been told by a doctor doing placenta implantation, that placenta cells, both injected and implanted placenta tissue, last 325 days.
He proposes a treatment using a total of 10 million cells, both implanted and injected. (http://stemcell-therapy-mexico.com/index.htm Dr. Gonzalez)
Another doctor, also in Mexico, who uses placenta implantation also, uses a "laser activation" of the stem cells (http://www.stemcellmexico.com/Treatment.html). Dr. Gonzalez does not.
A clinic in Malaysia promises "significant (but partial) improvements" using cord blood injections, cultivated to 100million cell count. (http://www.mingmedical.net/about-us.html)
"We in East Asia have been commonly using Stem Cell to treat degenerative conditions, over the last 10 years, and have refined the treatment protocols:
Condition
(patient age 57 yo)
Chronic Kidney Disease
Intravenous
Cord Blood Stem Cell
2 million per kg body weight
3 times, at 3-4 month intervals"
Another Mexican clinic that uses placenta cells: http://stemcell-therapy-mexico.com/index.htm https://sites.google.com/site/stemcellmexteatments/ Dr Rodriguez
I am left wondering a few things:
What is the life span of injected stem cells? Is there a difference between "mesenchymal" and placenta cell life?
Is activation of cells necessary? How is this best accomplished?
Should "blood vessel-forming cells" be used with injections?
Does implantation of placenta tissue have a better chance of working well?
What cell count is necessary for each type of cell?
Any opinions, knowledge, or discussion of the above would be most welcome and appreciated!
Thank you,
Mike